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Post by Ari’laftia on Mar 4, 2007 10:04:19 GMT -5
I must stand up in defense of the red veggies of death! LOL I love attack of the killer tomatoes! How can someone not be moved by the song??? ;D I am a Big B movie fan, much to the disgust of my husband. Anyone heard of the Killer Condoms?? LMAO! Now that one Ive only seen parts of and am still going huh? My personal worsts are : The Last House on the Left: on running long endured torture of women for fun, was not fun for me to watch. (Personal issues here, bad time in my life when I saw it) Squirm: Don't mind worms, but when they overrun you and eat you... eck.. Slugs: Same reason as above Planet of the apes, (The originals) :Something just bothered me about these, I'm still analyzing why?? Night of the Comet: My mothers favorite but I just never got into it, Though it is always fun to imagine what it would be like to run rampant through a mall taking what you wish, Though being eaten by zombies is a definite drag American Psycho and Natural Born Killers: Another two that bothered me at a level I am yet to understand. Kingdom of Spiders : Now seeing this one at 4/5 was not real smart, it caused my fear of spiders which I'm overcoming now, At least it didn't become a fear of William Shatner! I do want to see this again to see just what triggered all my internal fun/ turmoil. ;D Any of the "Shark Attack" movies 1,2 and 3:Megalodon: These were just so bad and a rip off of Deep Blue Sea which was A lot of fun! Some favorites that are popping into my head as I'm doing this, I have to put down, Evil Dead, Body Parts, American Werewolf in London, Any movies where they portray snakes, We have kept many as pets and its really funny to see how off they are in all aspects! Ghost ship: That was just ... wow. Night of the Lepus! Its a riot to see killer bunnies!
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Post by Deonhower Colmyne on Mar 6, 2007 3:28:16 GMT -5
hmmm... I don't really know how to put this... since I watch most movies with neutrality... (as to any aspect of life I suppose)... but there are movies that really seem to be overdoing themselves... 1. Bloodrayne - the only good scene was the humping scene 2. Ultraviolet - I feel like watching a rip off of Blade for some reason 3. Alone In The Dark - I thought it was an erotic movie until I discovered it was the movie adaptation for the infamous video game franchise 4. Slither - too predictable, and too gory... too lame 5. Scary Movie 3 - I like the Wayans brothers, but this sequel was just not my type 6. A Sound of Thunder - There's another title for this movie, but when we rented it, I slumped 1/4 of the way. It had a potential to be a great movie, but the graphics were so lame, and it seemed like the props didn't get much funding either. I mean, those guns, really look so Starwar-ish 7. American Psycho - don't ask... 8. Land of the Dead - the circusmtances should have been more apocalyptic since the dead ARE roaming most of the inhabited land. Instead... the living tend to be more... troublesome... so much for making zombies the central theme of a zombie movie. 9. The Cave - again too predictable 10. An American Wedding - or whatever that movie was called.. the third installment to the American Pie franchise? The first 2 were ok, but the 3rd was somewhat.... below the belt? Or maybe I just got tired of the whole series. * regarding Asian Kung Fu movies with bamboo flying and seemingly weighless leaps, I appreciate them in a certain perspective. You see we grew up with our heroes flying through jungles, crafting great skills, wielding simple yet formidable weapons and appeared almost invincible with their legendary martial arts. I know for some, that might be weird, but for my cultural heritage, our ideas of heroes are not those who fly in big red capes and wear their undies outside the blue spandex. Don't get me wrong though, I absolutely like watching and reading about western superheroes. I'm not trying to disagree with anyone who does not like Kung Fu and Mythical/Ancient China movies either. I'm just trying to share our point of views why they made it necessary to depict the heroes that way Although... it does appear to be silly at times.
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Post by Night Ω Wolfe on Mar 7, 2007 10:58:20 GMT -5
Okay I get Ari's reason for not liking American Psycho... gratuitous violence obviously isn't her thing plus a lot of people don't get the twist at the end which defeats the purpose of the movie.... but anyway since you said don't ask Deon I have to. Why don't you like that movie?
As for your comments about Asian heroes..... why do you think that a lot of Westerners think all Asians are magical/mystical? I personally LOVE martial arts movies and even when they ARE NOT doing all the wire trickery those guys still seem magical to me. There is just something about an Asian martial artist that really knows his craft that seems so otherworldly to me. I mean really how many white guys seem as graceful as an Asian? Most Americans no matter how good a martial artist still have a sort of clumsiness to their movements.
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Post by Hallelujah on Mar 7, 2007 11:51:49 GMT -5
I agree with Wolfe completely. I LOVE martial arts movies for the same reasons as Wolfe. I am always awe stricken by Asian martial artists... with or without the wire tricks. Their movements are so graceful and quick. Have heard many times that some move so fast that the film cannot catch their movements. They actually have to slow them down or do something to the film to catch them. Just amazing. I love the flying through jungles and the weapons! And the wonderful stories and myths and legends. Bruce Lee, Jet Li, Jackie Chan and all of them just amaze me.
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Post by AREA666 on Mar 9, 2007 13:48:07 GMT -5
Since we are all on the topic of the martial arts stuff I am one of those who dont like the wire kinds of stuff, running on water, etc. So a movie like Crouching Tiger I do not like. I always thought it was just to far fetched, but I never did look at it as the people being a superhero kind of class. I always like the lone warrior against a million who wins, or dies but takes a bunch with them and I think by looking at some of the ones I have not liked as a super hero I might like it more then. I have always liked other martial arts kinds of movies. I love Jet Li and am sad he wont be doing more movies. He is just so good he does not need the wire stuff, or much of it, to be entertaining. On another movie I have to say I liked the Sound of Thunder movie a lot. Yeah the graphics were horrible, but I think the idea of the movie was so original that it more then made up for it. I hope that someday a company with more money redoes it, or makes a similar movie.
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Post by Deonhower Colmyne on Mar 10, 2007 3:21:45 GMT -5
Well I like the American Psycho book, and I read it first before I watched the movie. I was disappointed with the movie's portrayal, but that's just a personal perspective. It somehow, did not meet my expectations and I was sorely disappointed. Gory movies were never in my A list but they're not something I hate either. Well the reasons for the grace of Asian martial artists has something to do with anatomy. This is a principle that Bruce Lee exploited when he had a defiant stand to bend the principles of Kung Fu with Jeet Kun Do (spelling could be wrong). He didn't exactly break the arts of Kung Fu, but he just took the grace out of it for precision and speed. But they both share the same principle: it's not about strength. Muscle mass is the least. I'm no Kung Fu expert but the books and visits I had were very informative. And.... I kinda grew up with monks.... literally... Anyway, the level of every joint is dependent on the distance of the weight from the force. Every joint in the body has a different class of leverage from class 1 - 3. There are joints for speed, there are joints for balance, and there are joints for power. Exploiting these movements enables a martial artist to harness the full potential of kinematics and make it a formidable weapon. By being precise, the levers will work in unison with minimal energy expenditure. This is where endurance and Chi kicks in. With reserved strength secondary to mental conditioning, inner strength outweighs actual energy expenditure. The bigger the muscle mass is the more time it needs to flex, extend or rotate a given joint. That split second of synapse from the brain to the muscle mass, from command to execution, is where the grace of a smaller body makes all the difference. Although there are exceptions, Asians generally have smaller frames and lean mass. Causcasians have bigger masses even in smaller frames. Given the same amount of training, one ethnicity will still develop more traits than the other: one strength.. the other speed. Like the antagonist in Kung Fu Hustle said: "In the world of Kung Fu, speed is everything." Though I do not entirely support his idea And yes! I love Jet Li in movies. To date, Fist of Legend is still IMHO is his best movie. It's just pure, and graceful. Too bad he retired, although it's not official. Jacky Chan and Jet Li, are talking about a production in 2008 where they will both star in a movie.
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Post by Hallelujah on Mar 10, 2007 14:44:18 GMT -5
Jackie Chan and Jet Li together? Woohoo!!!
Thanks for the explanations, Deon. After watching several different martial artists I had come to the conclusion that the graceful movements and speed had to have something to do with the way they are built. The same thing happens in many sports. You grew up with monks?
I agree with you about Fist of Legend. One of the ladies I enjoy watching is Michelle Yeoh (I hope I spelled that right). She does comedy very well too.
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Post by Deonhower Colmyne on Mar 12, 2007 5:12:29 GMT -5
Yes I kinda grew up with monks... when my family was just starting out in CA, I was in and out of Asia.. my education was both spent in the US and Asia spanning from Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Filipino teachers. I never spoke any other language except Filipino, English and a bit of Chinese and Japanese. All my teachers spoke in English quite fluently. Since I was Filipino-American-Chinese, there was a hard time placing me in a proper school. Although I ended up in a Catholic school, some summer tutorials were spent with buddhist monks, and... I think Shaolin monks, but I was pretty sure they're buddhist. Am not that familiar with their history. They didn't influence me to change my religion. They only influenced me on discipline, the importance of benevolnce, ethics, and some other things. It started from 2nd grade all the way to highschool intermittently from summer school and extending into the afternoons of regular school. Shortly after I had a brief stint of training with the Armed Forces of the Philippines but my mother pulled me out to go to med school. So here I am
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Post by Night Ω Wolfe on Mar 14, 2007 5:18:56 GMT -5
Wow Deon only you could explain something that I just think is pretty to watch in such a technical manner LOL That is sooo cool though.... I always wanted to meet a real monk... they totally intrigue me. I want one as a spiritual adviser/teacher. As for Jet Li what I heard was that he was retiring only from action/martial arts films.... he wants a chance to prove that he can act without it. Oh and I totally get the whole being disappointed with a movie after reading a book.. lucky for me I never read American Psycho hehe.
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Post by Deonhower Colmyne on Mar 15, 2007 4:20:09 GMT -5
Those monks were so cool. In their training, they can actually defeat an opponent without landing a blow. Their endurance is also amazing. I thought these people were confined to their monasteries praying all they. But the farm work they do and the everyday chores they accomplish gives them all the workout they need.... and they still work out! I'm pretty sure the most peaceful of my teachers was tibetan. He didn't practice martial arts. The others were pretty modern, but still devoid of much mundane needs. I kinda miss them. Yes I heard Jet Li was making a movie about a Tibetan monk in New York. I think it's supposed to be a serious movie where he will have minimal dialogues but engages more on projection. I wonder how he's going to do it. Though I'm not going to be used to him being like this, I watched Jet Li since "The Master" .
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Post by MrBadExample on Apr 5, 2007 12:09:04 GMT -5
Worst movies?
Well, I can't generate a top 10 right now, but I can submit one. I recently saw "South of Heaven, West of Hell", which country singer Dwight Yoakham wrote/directed/starred in. Considering the cast also included Vince Vaughn, Billy Bob Thornton, Peter Fonda, Bridget Fonda, and even a bit part for the legendary Warren Zevon (his only appearance in a movie besides a few documentaries) I expected more from this film.
Warning: possible spoilers
The first half consisted mostly of the sherriff (Yoakham) hanging around town and flirting with ... uhh ... whats-her-name (at one point, taking her for a ride in a hot-air balloon).
The second half consisted mostly of the various characters shooting each other at random points in the movie. I don't remember character names, or who was on what side, or who was double crossing who. I don't even remember how it ended.
I've seen Westerns before (although I am not a huge fan), and this one seemed to be lacking in rhyme-or-reason behind many elements, as though everything was just thrown into the script randomly (dialogue, encounters, who-shot-who-in-the-what-now, and random nudity/rape/assault of female characters).
Bottom Line: I want my two bucks back. And a personal apology from Dwight Yoakham. And a promise he will never do that again.
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Post by MrBadExample on Apr 5, 2007 12:15:29 GMT -5
Oh, and also another apology for desecrating the memory of the late Warren Zevon by giving him a bit part with no dialogue, wherein he basically played the same role as an extra.
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