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Apr 24, 2006 7:02:53 GMT -5
Post by dragornis on Apr 24, 2006 7:02:53 GMT -5
hhhhhmm, did he happen to say how magnets affect non metallic things then, such as humans? I figure there can be some sort of weird properties of magnets that could do it, but at the same time I would have to think the magnetic field that does this would have to be different the ones we know now. If it was one like we know of now that can affect metals and it were large enough to affect Earth then it would mess up anything electronic, so it would need to be different. The crystals would be more probable to me. They should take an expedition out to get images of the seafloor. Maybe they will find some sort of odd huge mound and eventually can send subs down to see what is under it, unless of course the crystal messes up the subs too. -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+- Electromagnetic fields effect human physiology as does resonance, and of course resonance effecting properties of light. -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+-
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Apr 24, 2006 7:10:22 GMT -5
Post by dragornis on Apr 24, 2006 7:10:22 GMT -5
While I agree with there being small amounts of metal in all of us I still dont see how with such a small amount it would affect us. You would think logically that if those small amounts are enough to affect us as they are that if somebody had a metal plate put in their head it would crush them or something like that. Or also other metal objects would simply be to heavy to lift. Maybe the fields are somehow smart, or as you said we just dont know enough about them yet. It is an interesting thought to think that our ancestors of long long ago actually knew far more then we do now. These fields, crystals, etc that confuse us now they were probably taught about in a kindergarten equivalent. If you want to start a thread on the more info you know on the crystals, fields, magnetics etc, that would probably be best. This way can keep this thread more along the lines of how or why man is here, not so much how we are held to the Earth. Oh and also I dont want to hear about your heritic ways, the Earth IS flat, held up by florescent pink elephants with purple polkadots on the back of a giant turtle. -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+- The minerals/metals found in our system are subject to the same effects as the macroscopic forms. Iron , hemaglobin in our bodies are effected by positive/negative values, our nervous system starting from our brain and extending into our muscloskeltal system is mediated by pos-negative values of those trace elements in our tissues,, -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+-
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Apr 24, 2006 7:19:41 GMT -5
Post by dragornis on Apr 24, 2006 7:19:41 GMT -5
I ascribe to Zarchia Sitchen's spin, that man is a hybrid that was genetically manipulated by an alien race to server them. That over time, that original prototype did develope / evolve. Once the alien race had worked their cheap labor to a point, man banded together an revolted against their creators.. About this time according to Sitchen, what we know as the great flood, came,, and the alien race ,,said ,,ahh comet coming ,, let the puny humans (our failed science experiment vanish) only like cockroachs we didnt,, and were released to make our way in the post flooded world...
The fossil gap is present in every species type, the pictures of man and animals progressing in shape and size ,, is only for the benefit of the un-educated as the progression of developement wasnt from from small to big, quadraped to bicep,, no the true arrangement of fossil history is entirely different.
Evolution is a part of creation,,, but the prototype of each species ,,still appears alone,, with no precursor to its, geno-type. that is scientific fact..
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Apr 24, 2006 7:49:19 GMT -5
Post by Hallelujah on Apr 24, 2006 7:49:19 GMT -5
WOOHOO!!! It's another one who read some of Sitchin's work. Have not read all of his books yet, but I will. The magnetic resonance concept is fascinating to me. Am still going to explain it better in another thread, just haven't got there yet.
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Apr 24, 2006 8:59:17 GMT -5
Post by dragornis on Apr 24, 2006 8:59:17 GMT -5
His work came out in the 60's l believe and were on the banned books list in a number of countries, to include Australia.
He knew about planet X, our sun being a twin sun, that the moon was initially a part of the earth. that there is a black hole in the center of our galaxy,,, all things that have become silent truths,,
His claims are based off of tranlations of the early sumarian scripts of the Rosetta stone and clay cylinders that have been found.. Interesting perspectives,, his time line for the end of the world matches that of the Hopi Indians of the Americas and the Mayans...approximately 2016 accounting for Lunar, solar calenders and the effects of precession of the earth's wobble,,
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Apr 24, 2006 10:02:29 GMT -5
Post by Hallelujah on Apr 24, 2006 10:02:29 GMT -5
Yep! Is very interesting. However, I don't believe that 2016 necessarily means destruction as most would think of it. Will talk more about that in another thread, too.
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Apr 24, 2006 20:28:57 GMT -5
Post by AREA666 on Apr 24, 2006 20:28:57 GMT -5
So I went out and did a google search on Sitchin and read some stuff on his site, but it is nowhere near what I assume are in his books. So can you all explain to me more of his theory on the Earth being hit by this invader planet? On his site he seemed to say this planet entered our system by being pulled in from our suns gravitational pull and then hit a planet that was between Mars and Jupiter. When that happened he seemed to think that Earth broke off of this planet, the moon was originally around the invader planet and that the asteroid belt is the remains. Now what I dont understand is that I think he said the invader planet was much larger then the planet it hit, so if that is so then why was the planet here not totally destoyed? Also does he explain how the part that broke off to become Earth became round since in his images he makes it look like it would be a half circle. I like ideas such as these that are based on things really old since it makes one wonder. He also seemed to talk a lot about current events that support his thoughts from the 70s, so that is interesting as well. He has some thoughts on Mars, although I think his ideas are not based on anything other then just visual clues. Like he sees things in images that he claims are walls or structures but they dont look much like it at all, and he also likes to use the face, but I read something on it recently where NASA took new pictures and it does not look like a face now, it only did before because of how the light just happened to hit it. Also in any of his books does he use any of his theories to disprove the big bang theory, or atleast show other possible ways the other planets came to be and not just Earth? And also does he tell how the beings from the invader planet transfered to what would become Earth when it was colliding and all that?
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Apr 25, 2006 0:25:21 GMT -5
Post by dragornis on Apr 25, 2006 0:25:21 GMT -5
This is to the best of my memory of the last time I read his work ,,, witch goes back about 6 years. You hit on one important aspect that which info which appears to be extracted from the Rosetta stone and Cylinders from Iraq, Ethopia and now under water Alexandria,, some of which have been recovered and brought to the surface,, all in the sumerian sankrit..Sitchen is acclaimed to be one of the few who can accurately translate this codex's which means,, they mean what he says they mean and so debatable.however NASA has since confirmed many of Stichen's claims,, concerning discoveries based on his research. One of these claims is the msytery planet that Sitchen had claimed is a part of our solar system but has a very long elicpical path. Sitchen claimed that the early aliens called themselves Annuki (Childern of the Light) and that they traveled in their small planet sized vehicle behind the tail of this far off planet. That the annunki had been visiting this planet for 100's of thousand of years and return when and leave with the orbital cycle of the rogue planet. They had been mining the earth for preious metals for many a year when the (Gods) annunki decided they where tired of doing the mining,, The high leader EKI who stayed up in the orbiting station gave permission and a commission to Inirtha to create such a being.. this is the acccount of Adam being made from elements of red clay and genetic engineering of an ambient life form,,(early homo erectus).. and eve being cloned from his rib. The chonicles told of many mishaps prior to success. And so Adam and his kind where engineered to mine for the Annunki. In one of the trips to earth one of the Annunki decided to show man how to create civilization,, by damming water, and building sturctures,, over time a cast system was built and a priesthood developed ,,"initates" where those who were taken into the confidence of the Annunki who had built great buildings like mountians to live in,, and travel to and from the orbiting space station, in sky ships that spat fire,,, This went on til the great flood that occurred about the time of a rebellion and the annunki were content to let mankind parish by natural diaster. Against EKI wishes one of the Annunki make it possible for mankind's progenator to surive the insuing flood ..gilgamesh. Well the rest is retold in Egyptian and what ever the other written inscription was on the rosetta stone. Again this is a patch together review,,I'm sure I've left out things,, and misnamed and missed spelled a few. What perks my thoughts are the Books of Enoch prettty much discribe a race of angels visiting man and and getting involved in man's soctiety,, eventually angering the "One God" and bring ing about the same distructive senario,, some where in there is the most like truth ,, as best we will ever know it.. The story goes that Gilgamest mangaed to obtain eternal life and live with the annunki,, The story of the cosmos and our solar system,, Tiamet the precusor of earth was hit by Marduk a rogue planet and slit tiamet up ,, the larger portion to become earth the smaller portion to become the moon,,The last I had read NASA scientist comfirmed that the moon is essentially a match for the earths crust,, ..for what its worth.. Again this is from memory, and other scholars have disputed Stichen's work and at some point his info turns from scholarly translations to conjecture (educated guess). What again perks my grey cells is that Sitchen's conjectures are not far from other myths and legends about the creation of the cosmos to the end of "The Age of Man" which I "feel" is near at hand,,,both the Mayan's and the Hopi agree on that,, and they all agree at around 2013-2016 in our time,,
This is for what its worth,,, I have lived by my instincts all my adult life,, and I trust them implicitly,, but thats me,,, you are free to derive whatever conculsions you wish.....
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Apr 25, 2006 10:33:34 GMT -5
Post by Hallelujah on Apr 25, 2006 10:33:34 GMT -5
The way Sitchen presents his information makes his theories seem very plausible. In some ways it sounds kind of like Stargate. LOL There are so many theories out there about the origins of humans, I figure somewhere in between is the truth. Another series of books I read says that the ones who manipulated human DNA were Pleiadian. Some say they were Liran. Some can quote scientific research that backs up their claims. Who knows what the truth is? I also tend to go by what feels right to me, not what is generally accepted.
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Apr 25, 2006 16:13:43 GMT -5
Post by AREA666 on Apr 25, 2006 16:13:43 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see if 2013-2016 is the end of man. Nostradamus has what he calls the Time of Troubles at 2006-2012 and he says it is possible the end of man will happen then, and since only one year after that is when others say the end will be then maybe as a result of what happens in the Time of Troubles brings about our ultimate end in the 2023-2016 time frame, which would basically mean we will never know our true origins for sure unless some aliens come by fast to tell us or some gods intervene.
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Apr 26, 2006 0:16:33 GMT -5
Post by dragornis on Apr 26, 2006 0:16:33 GMT -5
In regards to Stargates...the best story is associated with the montauk project that took place in an abandoned radar sire in the northeast of the USA, the person who claims to of channeled this info from Telepathic beings claims that our military has been in contact with an alien life force as far back as Dwight Eisnhower's time with a meeting at Edwards Air Force base. That a stargate was built and used to travel to a Lunar Base shared by the US and this Alien race.
What is interesting that the shaman's of the Mayan race also talk about childern of the light using stargates to travel between their home of origin and our planet. This same reasonce quality or ability also exsist in the Giza pyramid the only one standing that has the 52o inclination of its sides (no one has been able to duplicate this,, ever, even today).
Add this to the more recent discoveries / physic's extrapulations of parallel universes, with alternate but parallel time lines..
to me there doesnt seem to be that big of a leap,,
The end of the age of man may not mean the extinction of our race, but a suspension of its present course,, which I agree we need. The society of man in the US is ran by greed and power and very little concideration for spiritual or ethical issues ..such as the stewardship of our planet,, which we are close to ruining,, Many of our "Modern Advances" neither serve mankind as a community nor offer anything to our earth ( as a biological macro-organism), but only serve the greedy and power driven societies that control the material part of our society..
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Apr 26, 2006 0:37:47 GMT -5
Post by dragornis on Apr 26, 2006 0:37:47 GMT -5
So I went out and did a google search on Sitchin and read some stuff on his site, but it is nowhere near what I assume are in his books. So can you all explain to me more of his theory on the Earth being hit by this invader planet? On his site he seemed to say this planet entered our system by being pulled in from our suns gravitational pull and then hit a planet that was between Mars and Jupiter. When that happened he seemed to think that Earth broke off of this planet, the moon was originally around the invader planet and that the asteroid belt is the remains. Now what I dont understand is that I think he said the invader planet was much larger then the planet it hit, so if that is so then why was the planet here not totally destoyed? Also does he explain how the part that broke off to become Earth became round since in his images he makes it look like it would be a half circle. I like ideas such as these that are based on things really old since it makes one wonder. He also seemed to talk a lot about current events that support his thoughts from the 70s, so that is interesting as well. He has some thoughts on Mars, although I think his ideas are not based on anything other then just visual clues. Like he sees things in images that he claims are walls or structures but they dont look much like it at all, and he also likes to use the face, but I read something on it recently where NASA took new pictures and it does not look like a face now, it only did before because of how the light just happened to hit it. Also in any of his books does he use any of his theories to disprove the big bang theory, or atleast show other possible ways the other planets came to be and not just Earth? And also does he tell how the beings from the invader planet transfered to what would become Earth when it was colliding and all that? -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+- I'll try to answer your questions to the best of my memory: The story of our cosmos as told by the Annunki and recorded in the Sumerian culture, discribed the early solar system before they began visiting earth was my understanding ,, the great cataclyism that caused the world flood is not the same incident that cause a collesion of the planet they called Tiamet and the rogue planet Marduk or one of its orbiting moons,, this is recorded in a sumerian epic.. translated by Sitchen. AS to the shape of earth (remians of Tiamit) being shaped in a ball/globe I dont know the physic's,,behind gravity of neighboring bodies,, but is seems if a mass is large enough to remain in its own orbit and draw another mass into its orbit (Moon) the eventual effect on the mass is a globe like shape..by whatever laws control this,, this is true as all masses in space that have their own orbits and orbiting masses seem to be globular in shape wheither solid, liquid or gaseous..that body of science is clearly beyond my understanding,,, The face in the Cydonian region of Mars,, was an incidental finding and accidently released by NASA many years ago. Not only does a face appear but pryamids in the same configuration as those in the Giza complex can be seen there. Not to mention we have missing sattilites that were to orbit the moon and take pictures of the dark side and its sister side of Mars,, all of this satillites have dissappeared in space.. believe there have been 4 all together,,, If that is not enough we have astronauts that swear that that intellegent controled craft met their missions in space,,, and that a complex was seen on the moon,,, There is a lot out there that is kept from the general public's knowledge,, -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+-
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Apr 27, 2006 18:57:50 GMT -5
Post by AREA666 on Apr 27, 2006 18:57:50 GMT -5
Yeah it does seem that most bodies tend to form a sphere that have gravity, but it seems odd that if say half the planet was destroyed that the other half would form a sphere over time. It would seem that to do that that another half of that part would break off slowly, so we are now on roughly one fourth of the original mass. And then if the other chunks broke off then where are they? If we had enough gravity to hold the moon in place all these years then why not other fragments? I downloaded a lot of the books so maybe they will have some answers for me.
If you come across any links for all of the things you talked on dealing with Mars, the moon, etc. I would like to read them so if you could post the links in here please, or in another post if they are not related.
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Apr 28, 2006 2:33:14 GMT -5
Post by dragornis on Apr 28, 2006 2:33:14 GMT -5
Yeah it does seem that most bodies tend to form a sphere that have gravity, but it seems odd that if say half the planet was destroyed that the other half would form a sphere over time. It would seem that to do that that another half of that part would break off slowly, so we are now on roughly one fourth of the original mass. And then if the other chunks broke off then where are they? If we had enough gravity to hold the moon in place all these years then why not other fragments? I downloaded a lot of the books so maybe they will have some answers for me. If you come across any links for all of the things you talked on dealing with Mars, the moon, etc. I would like to read them so if you could post the links in here please, or in another post if they are not related. -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+- some of the laws of physics deal with the super heated masses, the smaller particles.. blasted to microscopic size.. couldnt of been vaporized since there is no vapor in space.. hehe However, I believe its consistent with our present body of knowledge to understand how a mass in a spherical shape..when subjected to super heated compression will release a paert of it's mass and resume its original shape..I suspect the nature of the core of our earth has some effect on this. One place where this kind of questions will get serious answers and not redicule would be the science section of the Blackvault. Ran by a friend John Greenewald,,started it when he was 18,, now a big time science program producer. -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+-
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Apr 28, 2006 2:38:31 GMT -5
Post by dragornis on Apr 28, 2006 2:38:31 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see if 2013-2016 is the end of man. Nostradamus has what he calls the Time of Troubles at 2006-2012 and he says it is possible the end of man will happen then, and since only one year after that is when others say the end will be then maybe as a result of what happens in the Time of Troubles brings about our ultimate end in the 2023-2016 time frame, which would basically mean we will never know our true origins for sure unless some aliens come by fast to tell us or some gods intervene. It is implied in both the myths of the Sumerians, Mayans and the Hopi , that it will be an end of an age, not necesserily of the species of mankind. Even the bible tells us in the ends time well will know all there is to our exsistence. Tho Hopi go to the point to say that the future is not fixed and that actions can be taking to guide the course of the future. Mainly the stewartship of earth,, which is discribed in Gensis, where Adam and Eve were given stewartship of the garden and dominion of all things on the earth. -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+- -+-Win32##Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0##1024 × 768##1-+-
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